Garmin something new for September

https://fccid.io/IPH-03430 shows a new wrist worn activity tracker due in September. Possibly a Vivosport or Vivofit jr. The FCC screen is landscape though which has me a little confused!

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  1. Any speculation that there might be new HRMs on the way? seeing some retailers with low to no stock for the TRI+SWIM bundle and reduced prices on RUN and TRI.

    • Nothing I’ve heard, although it wouldn’t be a surprise to me if they did update these. The Swim probably doesn’t need an update (although breath recording would be cool) but I can see the run and tri being updated and consolidated. There’s literally no point in the run existing other than some people like red 🙂

      • > There’s literally no point in the run existing other than some people like red

        25% difference in list price?

        • That price difference is artificial so doesn’t really justify two products. The internals have only tiny differences so they may as well just have a single unit with the caching included. Also the Tri is usually on sale so that cost difference isn’t usually there.

  2. bluetooth transmission is needed.
    swim is not comfortable with flawed strap design
    could be scope for a pro-team based solution especially if gps+accelermoter integrated (can’t wear a watch whilst playing soccer)

    • I disagree that Bluetooth is needed, but I’m sure it’ll be added anyway. One day BTLE profiles may even be standardised!
      I also disagree about the comfort of the Swim strap. It’s not very stretchy but it is the only strap that works when swimming without a wetsuit. I don’t find mine uncomfortable at all though.
      While I think they absolutely could if they wanted to, I don’t think there is sufficient scale for Garmin to bother with team sports. Polar has this niche covered so it would be an uphill battle for what is realistically very few sales (when compared to Fenix for instance). It may be a marketing move to ensure they hold the whole market, but equally given Garmin’s track record with transmission and reception it could be a PR disaster when rugby players at one end of the field go out of range. I don’t think pro teams would tolerate the same issues consumers do unless they were being paid. If Garmin have to pay for them to use it why bother?

      • Bluetooth…Zwift.
        not needed for me and you but hey. there’s a lotta zwifters out there. Garmin NEED to do it …at least for appearances sake
        maybe even get a power algorithm in it too.

        swim: I find mine realtively uncomfortable AND the strap cannot properly maintain tension (I still use it to annoy myself)… unlike the hrm-tri which is generally awesome

        there’s a few companies that do the team stuff from various angles. it would likely become a direct sale from garmin (cutting out the middle men) and also would be a high-value sale. Not sure garmin would invest in the app/software behind it tho.

        Rugby, etc: it’s not about range. it’s about caching.

        • Sir Clive Woodward seemed to think they monitored live when I spoke to him in the Twickenham changing rooms about their tech integrated into rugby shirts. He said American Football uses similar tech to see where players are on the field and what their stats are at any given moment. Caching wasn’t mentioned and wouldn’t give them any edge in a game either. FWIW this is also related to England changing to tighter shirts. Harder to grab and allows HRM integration. Sensor in the jump on the back. He may have been elaborating though…

  3. Have you heard anything on the replacement to the Forerunner 935 (945)? I’m really on the fence waiting on that, or buying a Fenix 5 plus…

  4. Yes some of the data is live with the Catapult OptimEye system

  5. Do you think it make sense to buy Vivosports now (August 2018)?
    Or, the new version is coming or looming soon?

  6. Now that the newest Vivofit Jr 2 has been released (A03380) we can rule that out for this product fccid 03430. Vivosport was a touch screen without buttons and if this new garmin product is the Vivosport 2 it looks like it’ll be coming with at least one button and touch screen.

  7. Any word on a GPSMAP 66 series? A local retailer (New Zealand) is advertising a 66s and 66st in their latest catalogue, but none in store and their staff know nothing about them.
    I tried contacting Garmin NZ who suggested they’re legitimate but not yet announced.
    Keen to know when they’ll be available so I don’t buy an out of date model.

    • You’re the second person to say that! No I’ve not seen anything yet but there are new Astro and InReach models so perhaps they are sharing some hardware and refreshing the GPSMap. Not sure what I’d change to update these, my 62s is still the best GPS device I have. Perhaps adding GLONASS etc. would be nice, and a higher res screen.

  8. Hi, Have you heard anything on the replacement to the 735 or Fenix 3? I’m looking at these and notice they have been around for a few years now so are they due to be replaced any time soon?

    • The Fenix 3 has been replaced twice now so is definitely not a great choice at this point. I don’t think the 735 will be replaced (opinion, not fact) so I would look at either the 935 or the Fenix 5 if you need a budget multisport watch, or look at the Fenix 5 plus if you can afford it.

      • Have you heard anything about LTE coming in any Garmin products in the near future? Im needing a bike computer and better watch for triathlons and training than my VA3, but I dont want to plunk down on a 820 and Fenix 5X if they are going to come out with an LTE variant soon. I really would just love to be able to send my strava and garmin beacons while competing since I dont I have a phone on me.

        • I’ve not seen any rumours about this and wouldn’t expect it. Many sports would also not allow such a device during competition so careful what you wish for! I think given the extra regulations and testing required this will be the last thing Garmin will add, of only to avoid the headache.

          • hmmm. I think Microsoft were once burnt for not believing in connectivity. Who do you work for Dave ? 😉 Joking but it will come for Garmin…I would doubt 2019, so john should buy now. there have been bike head units with cellular for a while (eg xplova x5 a year or two ago..replaced with non-lte version admittedly)

          • I agree it’ll come, but I think it’s a long way off because the vast majority of their customers are not demanding it right now. Garmin prefer to drip feed features, so until they run out of minor tweaks I just don’t see a reason for them to put in the R&D money it would take to get there. Remember that Garmin are not Android based so they’d have to write and certify all of the code from the ground up. Much easier to wait for technology to move forwards enough so they can move to Android without sacrificing too much.
            Work? Me? Never!

    • I think there are various lists that a 745XT appeared on.

      A sensible pre-Christmas time for Garmin to release that would be Kona and/or to spoil the Vantage V/M launches in october.

      So I’d expect a 745XT or a 945 within the next 5 weeks.

      Extrapolate from that a 735XT or 935 purchase might suddenly become cheaper and they are both due to be discounted in Black Friday/Cyber Monday…so NO I would not buy a 735 now.

      • I doubt either will get significantly cheaper at this point compared to the already heavy discounts. I definitely consider the 935 a good buy still despite potential for replacement.

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