Garmin Roundup – August 2019

I know, it’s been a while. There is loads of news around Garmin this month, the short version is DON’T BUY ANY GARMIN STUFF UNTIL SEPTEMBER. There are a lot of new devices coming along so only buy if you get a good deal or are happy with stable, older stuff. We’re likely to see new Fenix devices, new vivo devices, new Vector pedals and new sensors like HR-TRI and run pods, possibly even new radar devices.

Garmin Update
Garmin Watches
Garmin Bike Computers

Garmin Update

SO MUCH on the FCC site this month.

Vivomove – analog watch

Elsewhere on the web, here are some recent Garmin stories:

DCRainmaker – Install Maps on Edge

DCRainmaker – Install Maps on watches

DCRainmaker – Marq Review

TFK – Fenix 6 rumour

ME! – leaked pictures from a reader

Firmware Updates

Forerunner 935

Changes made from version 13.00 to 13.30:

  • Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could crash during a Biking activity when using a speed or cadence sensor.
  • Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could crash when fetching calendar information from the smartphone.
  • Fixed an issue where smart notifications intermittently stopped working for iOS devices.
  • Fixed an issue where workouts from a training plan were marked as missed despite being completed.
  • Fixed an issue where the golf scorecard page could display invalid values.

Forerunner 645 Music

Changes made from version 5.70 to 5.90:

  • CIQ Improvements
  • Wallet Improvements
  • Correct an issue where the Garmin Coach widget could become inaccessible.
  • Fix occasional freeze that could occur while saving an activity.
  • Various stability improvements

Fenix 5

Changes made from version 13.00 to 13.30:

  • Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could crash during a Biking activity when using a speed or cadence sensor.
  • Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could crash when fetching calendar information from the smartphone.
  • Fixed an issue where smart notifications intermittently stopped working for iOS devices.
  • Fixed an issue where workouts from a training plan were marked as missed despite being completed.
  • Fixed an issue where the golf scorecard page could display invalid values.

Fenix 5 Plus

Changes made from version 8.02 to 8.03:

  • Fixed an issue where the device wouldn’t receive iOS notifications intermittently.
  • Fixed an issue where stroke data during a rowing activity was not available on Varia vision.
  • Fixed an issue where the device would try to auto resume an activity during ‘Resume later,’ if connected to an inReach Mini.
  • Made several code improvements and bug fixes for golf, especially CT10.

Instinct

Changes made from version 4.00 to 5.10:

  • Explore Sync improvements.
  • Fixed possible crash on workout timer page.
  • Fixed issue with repeated ‘on course’ notifications.
  • Fixed issue where hourly alerts would not occur exactly on the hour.
  • Fixed issue with sunrise/sunset alerts not occurring at the correct time.
  • Fixed rare issue where Ski activities would not upload to Connect.
  • Fixed possible issue where saved locations would have the wrong default icon.
  • Fixed possible crash when repeatedly selecting a toggle menu item.
  • Fixed a crash that could occur when saving an activity.

Edge 1030

Changes made from version 7.40 to 7.50:

  • Added the option to choose the radar alert tone.
  • Improved wireless performance for the ANT STEPS profile.
  • Fixed issue with Shimano E8000 Di2 gear display.
  • Added eBike activity logging.
  • Fixed issues with the cycling dynamics page.
  • Fixed issue where two locations with long, similar names would cause the device to crash.
  • Fixed issues with loading very long courses.

Edge 820

Changes made from version 11.10 to 11.20:

  • Fixed a crash that could occur when riding with a cadence sensor.

Changes made from version 11.00 to 11.10:

  • Added support for 12-speed shifting sensors.
  • Fixed data field issues when using a shifting system with no front derailleur.
  • Fixed issue where radar would not automatically reconnect after being disconnected for more than 2 minutes.
  • Updated RTL510 and RTL500 light modes for Auto and Trail modes.
  • Fixed Varia lights not activating when starting an activity.
  • Made several improvements to the Sensor Details UI for Vector 3 power meters.
  • Fixed average power balance data field not working correctly.
  • Added the option to choose the radar alert tone.
  • Fixed an issue where setting the device language through Garmin Connect would result in the language defaulting back to English.
  • Fixed an issue where going through the data screen flow would automatically enable the screen.
  • Fixed an issue preventing the device from manually connecting to a network SSID.

Edge 520 Plus

Changes made from version 4.10 to 4.20:

  • Fixed a crash that could occur when riding with a cadence sensor.

Changes made from version 4.00 to 4.10:

  • Added support for map panning and zooming.
  • Added support for 12-speed shifting sensors.
  • Fixed data field issues when using a shifting system with no front derailleur.
  • Fixed issue where radar would not automatically reconnect after being disconnected for more than 2 minutes.
  • Updated RTL510 and RTL500 light modes for Auto and Trail modes.
  • Fixed Varia lights not activating when starting an activity.
  • Made several improvements to the Sensor Details UI for Vector 3 power meters.
  • Fixed average power balance data field not working correctly.
  • Added the option to choose the radar alert tone.
  • Fixed an issue where setting the device language through Garmin Connect would result in the language defaulting back to English.
  • Fixed an issue where going through the data screen flow would automatically enable the screen.

Edge 520

Changes made from version 12.90 to 13.00:

  • Updated battery capacity model to better reflect the remaining battery life of older batteries.
  • Added support for 12-speed shifting sensors.
  • Fixed data field issues when using a shifting system with no front derailleur.
  • Made several improvements to the Sensor Details UI for Vector 3 power meters.
  • Fixed issue causing some Connect IQ apps to not be able to make web requests through the phone connection.
  • Added filter to eliminate unrealistic power spikes coming from the sensor.

Edge 130

Changes made from version 3.30 to 3.40:

  • Fixed an issue where older activities could show up instead of newer activities in history
  • Fixed an issue where duplicate activities could be recorded if paired to a speed sensor that is also paired with a phone
  • Fixed an issue where the GPS toggle could fail to take effect the first time
  • Fixed an issue where editing the screen layout could cause a device reset
  • Fixed other minor issues
  • Updated translations

Vector 3

Changes made from version 3.50 to 3.60:

  • Tuned low battery warning indication
  • Add support for ANT+ Bike Power Profile v5.1
  • Limit computed TE/PS values to 100%
  • Fix Right Side PCO when TE/PS is not enabled
  • Improve ANT reception while coasting for short durations (4 minutes or less)
  • Prevent Vector 3S from getting stuck in the Install Angle Wizard on Edge 510/810
  • Fix setting Crank Length to report Manual/Default correctly

Garmin

Range Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Fenix Series Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy. This is pretty old and is quite dated from a technology standpoint. The new generation Garmin range really is a lot better.
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has been superseded. I’ve downgraded to red because updates and features are gradually disappearing. Let’s be clear though, this is still a very capable watch and I would have no problem buying and using one for the right price on the understanding that it is what it is and won’t get new features.
Garmin Fenix 5, 5s, 5X, Quatix 5, D2 Charlie, Tactix Charlie Released in January 2017 so this watch is not dated and will be very well supported throughout 2019 at least.
Garmin Fenix 5 Plus Finally arrived in June 2018 including the Ti model(s) we predicted after the D2 Charlie arrived.
Garmin Fenix 6 Launching August/September 2019
Garmin Fenix 6+ Maybe mid 2020? The fenix timeline has dropped to almost annual release recently
Garmin Fenix Chronos Superceded by the Marq series. Downgraded to red since the Fenix 5 Plus arrived, there is little reason to buy the Chronos now.
Garmin Marq Update to the Chronos. Very expensive new Fenix 5 Plus and a bit released early 2019. Expect an update in 2021
Mapping and hiking specific Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Instinct Launched October 2018 so the first update to this new range is likely to be October 2020
High end Triathlon 9xx Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one on the understanding that no new features will be coming.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Released March 2017 and based on Fenix 5 hardware and software. This is a solid watch but will be replaced by the Fenix 5 Plus based Forerunner 945 by Summer 2019
Garmin Forerunner 935 Plus As expected this is not happening.
Garmin Forerunner 945 Released summer 2019
Garmin Forerunner 955 Expected summer 2020/early 2021
Midrange Triathlon 7xx Garmin Forerunner 735XT If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Forerunner 745XT I just can’t imagine why this would exist so have marked it Grey as “not happening”. Maybe I’m wrong.
High end running 6xx Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. The 645 is clearly the future here and is a much more capable device
Garmin Forerunner 645/645 Music Launched January 2018, earliest replacement likely January 2020
Garmin Forerunner 655 Expect in around January 2020. The “Music” suffix will disapear since music will be standard in the next model
Midrange Running 2xx Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – This range has ended with OHR models taking over everywhere
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Wait. Garmin have released the 645 which kinda takes over this range. The 235 is fairly dated compared to newer watches but still fits the bill as a great running watch.
Garmin Forerunner 245 finally released 2019.
Garmin Forerunner 255 expected 2021
Budget Running 0xx Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) and has been sorta replaced with the FR30. Still cheap and capable though
Garmin Forerunner 30 released September 2017
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 45 released summer 2019
Fitness Garmin Vivoactive Replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin.
Garmin Vivoactive HR Don’t buy unless you get a good deal. This is still quite new but has been superceded by the Vivoactive 3 which seems to add a lot of things including wrist based payment. Not quite ready for a red grade yet, this is still a great watch
Garmin Vivoactive 3/Music Buy, this is just released in August 2017 so August 2019 is the probable replacement.
Garmin Vivoactive 4 Late 2019 is the earliest we expect this model. Expect the Music tag to disapear as music will be standard accross all but the cheapest watches by then.
Garmin Vivosport Released in August 2017, we would expect a replacement in 2019 for this device
Garmin Vivosport 2 Expected late summer 2019

Garmin Bike Computers

Range Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
High End 1xxx Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this was overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!) even when replaced in August 2017. This is cheap everywhere now, and still a good device but only a little cheaper than the Edge 1030.
Garmin Edge 1030 Finally arrived in August 2017. Likely replacement…2020! Although I can imagine a 2019 update so we’ll wait and see
Garmin Edge 1040 Keep calm and wait until 2020!
Midrange Map/touch 8xx Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Replaced by the Edge 830 in April 2019
Garmin Edge 830 Launched April 2019, the earliest we expect a replacement is 2021
Garmin Edge 840 Summer 2021
Midrange Map/buttons 5xx Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 This is current, although may be replaced around Jan 2019. Kinda sorta replaced by the plus model
Garmin Edge 520 Plus Replaced by the Edge 530 in April 2019
Garmin Edge 530 Launched April 2019, the earliest we expect a replacement is 2021
Garmin Edge 540 Summer 2021
Budget 2xx & 1xx Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 130 Buy, this is new in April 2018 and a great little computer.
Garmin Edge 140 Not before May 2020, probably May 2021
Basic Garmin Edge 20 While this is current, it’s due for replacement in 2018. It’s possible this replacement will be pushed back though, as there’s very little to change on these devices. With the Edge 130 this range may disapear altogether, or just hang around as an ultra low cost alternative
Garmin Edge 25 While this is current, it’s due for replacement in 2018. It’s possible this replacement will be pushed back though, as there’s very little to change on these devices. With the Edge 130 this range may disapear altogether, or just hang around as an ultra low cost alternative

27 Comments

  1. you’re quite delayed with F5 and FR943, there is new software since 13.08.
    F5:
    Software version 14.10 and sensor hub version 6.90 have been released at 50%. The change log for the software version is below.

    Change Log
    Improved Pairing Experience with Garmin Dual ANT+/BLE Sensors.
    Made several code improvements and bug fixes for golf, especially CT10.
    Fixed an intermittent issue where the device could report an incorrect treadmill calibration.
    Fixed an issue where the hourly alert was off by minutes when manually changing time on device.
    Fixed an issue where stroke data during a rowing activity was not available on Varia vision.

    • Those aren’t up on the official change feed yet – the links for the change feeds are the section headers. Looks like you’re right though there are some newer ones.

  2. What about a new Garmin s 60 golf watch?

  3. Any rumors out there regarding a new Rino? I have been waiting for a few years to pull the trigger on a new one

    • My assumption would be that team has been busy with the GPSMap 66i. Now that’s out of the door there might be a 66 Rino. Not sure how well they sold though, 66i might now be the only offering with comms.

  4. I know this isnt a watch or head unit per se, but I was looking at the HRM straps on garmins website and there is a broken listing for an ACC, HRM-PRO…

    Has anyone come across this before or know what this is. The link is dead on the garmin site and I dont see any references to an HRM-PRO. I also dont recall seeing anything on the FCCID site about a new HR transmitter, although it would make sense for garmin to release a new HRM-RUN/TRI variant that brings in the dual BLE/ANT and maybe helps with the new FB metrics that the F6 and 945 can use.

    • We’re certainly due new HRM sensors and running sensors so I’d expect to see them soon. Don’t expect huge new features though. Maybe internal recording and BTLE like the bike sensors.

      • a few leaks on the hrm-pro are coming out now. XC skiing dynamics looks a cert which will go nicely with the new F6 piste maps. not sure how the release of the hrm-rpo and run pod fits in with the timing of a VA4 launch.

        • Best guess still a launch at IFA?

  5. Any info on a new vivosport ?

  6. Any news on a Descent Mk2?

    A lot of divers like the look of the Mk1, but without AI, not many are willing to take the plunge!

  7. Nothing for the edge explore?

  8. The Garmin D2 Delta was released over a year ago. The D2 series have historically been released after a new Fenix model is announced. Any thought as to when the next version of the D2 (Echo?) will be released being that the Fenix 6 was just announced??

    • Those special editions are a bit random, sometimes they come soon after a Fenix and sometimes not. As far as I can tell the software is a single code base now and hardware no longer changes too drastically so there shouldn’t be much work involved in releasing one. Unfortunately the D2 is the only special edition that actually does something unique and different so you’ll just have to wait it out and hope it’s not long. For the others like Tactix I’d have said just get the Fenix ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Well, hopefully soon, I’ve read others referencing the latest firmware update for the current D2 series was months in the making and when the firmware update came out it only addressed one D2 specific item. So in their opinion this could mean that the D2 development team has been busy with another project (D2 Echo) otherwise that firmware update would have been released much sooner based on the limited amount of work it took to make the one fix that was in it. If that is true my question would be when would Garmin release it? They seem to wait to release them right before conferences or events, like DEMA for the Descent or the Oshkosh Airshow for previous D2 watches and CES obviously. Not sure if Garmin would release without an event or not, if they are waiting for one I guess CES 2020 would be the next conference they would release at, or is there another one before the end of the year that I am not thinking of…?

  9. What’s about the edge explore? How old is it? I watch decreasing prices now…?

    • Those are pretty sporadic and unpredictable. Personally I’m hoping they move away from that line because it’s software based differentiation to hit a price point, so they’d be better off just lowering the cost of the other units a little. There aren’t many people who are happy with getting an almost identical piece of hardware with features arbitrarily turned off. I always think of the explore as a car with the back seats and carpets removed after production it’ll be cheaper, but for no real good reason.

      • In NZ, the Edge Explore is $320 NZD ($200USD), and the Edge 1030 is $799 NZD ($500).

        The Explore is only 40% the cost of the 1030, and you lose SW support for power meters, structured workouts, multiple user profiles, and “FirstBeat driven training load or related metrics ”

        HW-wise you lose Wifi sync and barometric altimeter.

        If only 1 person is using the device, you dont need structured workout instructions, and you dont use power meters, and dont mind syncing via bluetooth and not wifi, then saving $300 to get altitude data from the GPS and correction-while-syncing instead of the barometric altimeter seems like a great deal.

        To me (don’t use power meters) the barometric altimeter is the only real lack on the explore compared to the 1030. Is that worth the the extra $300 USD? For some people, sure.

        But it doesnt seem like a car without the back seats/carpets to me. It seems like almost the same amazingly awesome car at a full 60% discount if you are willing to decline the SiriusXM and Spinner Hubcaps.

        And at the current $200 USD, there is nothing out there that can touch the Edge Explore not even the new Wahoo Elemnts with their newly added Varia Radar support (probably the closes competitor)

        • Thanks that makes sense. In the UK the prices are much closer together when discounts are applied. Very few things sell for the RRP in the UK ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. nom more news about the updates ??..

  11. Any news on the Descent Mk2?

    I don’t wana buy MK1 if MK2 is getting released soon…

    • If they have one in the pipeline, it will be announced in the next few weeks (it was announced around Halloween 2 years ago).

      DEMA (Scuba Diving convention) is in Orlando this year (starting November 13th) and theyโ€™ll want to show it off there.

  12. Hi,

    do you know something about the virb xe?, it will update?

  13. Vivosmart? They’re currently on Vivosmart 4.

  14. Nothing about Index Smart Scales. Will MK2 happen?

  15. If the Mk2 (or some variation of it anyways) is going to happen, I believe word will come down this week…Tuesday or Wednesday.

  16. I did an APK teardown of the latest Garmin Connect which I posted to reddit, Garmin has quite a few new devices in the pipepline. Ones that look nearly ready to launch are:

    Approach S62
    Descent Mk2
    Lumen

    And other devices are being developed like the 745, 955, 955 LTE, Tactix Delta, Index Scale 2, HRM Pro, Edge 130 Plus, and Edge 1030 Plus

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/dw2mxe/incoming_new_garmin_devices_approach_s62_descent/

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