Polar news and Suunto warning

Finally Polar are set to launch today. TFK will have info at 12:00 BST at https://the5krunner.com/2018/09/13/polar-vantage-the-wait-is-over/ so please check out that link as I’m sure it’ll be comprehensive. I’d assume dcrainmaker.com will also cover this with a detailed review but as ever Ray doesn’t give hints.

In other news, Suunto have released “new” models. I’m posting this partly as a warning, you see a great many sites have reviewed the “Suunto 9” which at the time of review had a barometric altimeter. It now doesn’t. The “Suunto 9” has now been downgraded to essentially a Spartan Sport while they “added” the “Suunto 9 Baro” which is the watch actually reviewed. If you think you’re getting a bargain on the Suunto 9, you’re probably actually a victim of bait and switch. Buy a Polar/Garmin/Other instead, they may even have the training features you wanted (spoiler, some reviews upcoming!)

13 Comments

  1. Victim of bait????? Are you kidding me are you a brother of dc rainmaker that you only like garmin

    • No, I’ve publicly written quite a lot of negatives about Garmin. The simple fact is that Suunto have released a watch, got good reviews, then changed the name of that watch and replaced a less well specced one in its place. That is literally what a “bait and switch” scam is. Customers think they are getting the device in the review at a lower price when in fact they are getting a lower spec one which has no reviews.
      Since you mention DCRainmaker, no I’m not affiliated with him at all other than constantly bothering him with comments on his posts. How do you think he feels though, his review clearly states that there’s a barometer in the “Suunto 9” and there now isn’t. Should he waste time updating the post, or waste time explaining to disappointed readers who bought the wrong device in good faith? Either way he loses valuable time and energy.

      • Sorry, but you are wrong. The Watch was always (and is still) named “Suunto 9” and in the past you did order a “baro black” version (or different color) and no other versions were available. The watch is still the “Suunto 9” except that you can now order also a “black” which has no barometric altimeter.

  2. I think Suunto just renamed the products. As you can see the bezel of the models without the barometer is different. The webshops in my country have listed the “Suunto 9” under the new name for some time now.

    • Yes they did. And now the name which people used in reviews in good faith is a lower model than that reviewed. Bait and switch plain and simple.

  3. At the moment the page https://the5krunner.com/2018/09/13/polar-vantage-the-wait-is-over/ is down (9:40 BST)

  4. I agree with Lusty, definitely bait and switch. I’ve been keeping an eye on the S9 for some time now. I’ve been waiting to get one as soon as they offered a shiny bezel black unit. To my excitement I got the announcement yesterday and checked their site right away only to find the exact setup I’ve been waiting for. Only problem is this ‘new’ Suunto 9 is without baro. The other ‘new’ Suunto 9 is explicitly called Suunto 9 Baro but it’s not actually new its the same unit that came out in June. WTF? Then again the new S9 with the nice colors is $100 less so that’s fair but why switch the names? Why not call the new non-baro versions Suunto 9G or Suunto 8 or Suunto 7.

    • Exactly the scenario I was talking about. Agree the lower price matches the hardware, but it needs to be explicit that it’s not the one you read a review on. Suunto 7 would have made sense and was what I had expected to see.

  5. Did I understand correctly that there will be no navigation on polar?
    Overall I think polar has missed the train. Was hoping for some revolutionary stuff but only got running power.
    The missing navigation, huge bezel with small screen and no special feature just screams at me to stay on v800

  6. hi dave
    tell us a bit more about the suunto stuff? I did see the 9 Baro a couple of days ago but had a vague recolelction of some calling it that ages ago (like months) and vaguely remembered that it sometimes appeard that way at vairous places on suunt’s site? i’ve had no updates from suunto recently and have been polartastically busy of late.

    • Ray had an update about this – he confirmed on a comment on his post about the Suunto 9. When he reviewed it, it was just the Suunto 9 with no “baro” suffix or options. As such, reviews of “Suunto 9” say it’s got features that the “Suunto 9” doesn’t have but the “Suunto 9 Baro” does have. That’s dishonest and misleading, whether intentional or not. Not to mention that it’s just really, REALLY hard to work out which one to buy. To the point that it’s easier to just not buy Suunto.

  7. gotcha.
    same as Ray for me.
    it may be c**kup rather than conspiracy. right from the start i saw stuff for the one i have being given both names. at the time i assumed they were the same thing…clearly not.

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