Monthly Roundup – September 2017

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for September 2017…

Sorry sorry sorry I’ve been very busy with a new job! hopefully everything is covered here, corrections in comments please as I didn’t spend long looking this month.

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has been superceded. It’s been a while since the Fenix 5 came out and this is still amber because it’s actually still reasonably supported and doesn’t need much fuctionality so offers great value if you don’t need the latest shiny thing.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.

There will be new Fenix models in January, including a Titanium one so be aware of that over the Xmas period.

Garmin Fenix Chronos New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. Garmin have seemingly aligned the firmware for the Fenix, Chronos and 935 now with bugs and features being consistently addressed accross all at the same time. This makes me feel more confident that the Chronos won’t be killed off early so it’s now a green flag here.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) and has been sorta replaced with the FR30. Still cheap and capable though
Garmin Forerunner 30 released September 2017
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Wait. Garmin have started teasing about a device which is almost certainly the 245 and 645 already.
Garmin Forerunner 245 Likely coming soon to launch alongside the Forerunner 645. August-October 2017. Expect this to be similar to Approach S60 hardware.
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d normally expect replacement. With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform
Garmin Forerunner 645 With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform. Expect this some time in August-October 2017
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin.
Garmin Vivoactive HR Don’t buy unless you get a good deal. This is still quite new but has been superceded by the Vivoactive 3 which seems to add a lot of things including wrist based payment. Not quite ready for a red grade yet, this is still a great watch
Garmin Vivoactive 3 Buy, this is just released in August 2017 so August 2019 is the probable replacement.
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this was overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!) even when replaced in August 2017. This is cheap everywhere now, and still a good device but only a little cheaper than the Edge 1030.
Garmin Edge 1030 Finally arrived in August 2017. Likely replacement…2020! Although I can imagine a 2019 update so we’ll wait and see
Garmin Edge 1040 Keep calm and wait until 2020!
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next v850 Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch.

Possibly at Kona?

Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected late 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport, HR, Baro Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming. Suunto is dripping out many, many models
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
TomTom Multisport Launched April 2013, available July 2013 older watch probably best not to buy. Replaced by newer runner models
TomTom Multisport Cardio Launched April 2014, available April 2014 older watch probably best not to buy. Replaced by newer runner models
TomTom Runner Launched April 2013, available July 2013 older watch probably best not to buy. Superceded
TomTom Runner Cardio Launched April 2014, available April 2014 older watch probably best not to buy. Superceded
TomTom Spark (Runner 2) Launched September 2015, available October 2015 2 years old so buy if a good deal but has been superceded by Spark/Runner 3

TomTom have just announced they may exit this market so beware!

TomTom Spark 3/Runner 3 Launched September 2016, available September 2016 one year old so relatively safe, although TomTom seem to have a yearly cadence so expect announcement in September 2017

TomTom have just announced they may exit this market so beware!

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10 comments on “Monthly Roundup – September 2017
  1. Jonathon Maestas says:

    is the 245 and the 645 a for sure thing?
    -cross country/track Runner

  2. ItDoc says:

    Tomtom has released two important updates in less than a month… With personalized exercises, simple phone notification and some “cool” app information (vo2max, fitness age and so on), now I think their devices are comparable to Garmin, polar etc (in my opinion giving more quality at the same or less price). It doesn’t seem an exit strategy.

    • lusty says:

      Let’s hope they decide to stay around. Unfortunately given the purpose of this site until they publically commit the ratings will remain poor

  3. Ben says:

    You say I shouldn’t buy a Forerunner 230, right now. However I dont want optical HR as I’ve already a Garmin HRM strap for my bike. I wont use watch based payment services while out for a run. Wont use group tracking. Don’t need standard cable charge.
    So if the Forerunner 230 can now be found at discounted prices, why should I pay much more for a Forerunner 245 when I wont use most of its features?

    • lusty says:

      That’s literally the recommendation 🙂 This site is only here to stop you buying just before a new release and regretting it when the new stuff arrives. These devices continue to work even when replaced so if you get a good deal and don’t need the new features then go for it.

  4. bom says:

    Does Polar really deserve green flag for any device in the table?

    They have declared that they will terminate polarpersonaltrainer.com in may 2018 without providing any alternative for legacy products that rely on it. Those products will be made mostly unusable by this decision.

    How can one trust that they will keep Flow running, and what will happen when they decide to move to another platform and drop Flow for some reason?

    • Marek says:

      I sent a little hatemail to polar and their reply was that polarpersonaltrainer.com will be live until the end of 2019. So one more extra year. Doesnt make much difference to me since I moved to v800 and downloaded all my data from polarpersonaltrainer but it’s a really dick move from Polar.

  5. ugl says:

    Not sure why the Fenix 5 and 5S would be a ‘green’ ‘buy’ when they are about to be replaced with a PLUS version that actually works. ie Garmin apparently can’t firmware fix the sensor dropout issues with existing hardware.

    As you say “This site is only here to stop you buying just before a new release and regretting it when the new stuff arrives.” 😉

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