Monthly Roundup – July 2017 (Now with TomTom!)

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for July 2017…

I was waiting for the Edge1030 info to arrive but I think it may be a couple more weeks yet so here we go.

As highlighted in the comments (multiple times) I never included TomTom. Now I have. Hopefully you clever people in Internet land can help me out with timescales as I’m not familiar with TomTom.

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has finally been superceded. Don’t panic though, the Fenix 5 adds very little, so if the Fenix 3 is cheap it’s a great watch to buy. Updates will stop within the next year though probably, but there isn’t a lot they need to add to this stable and mature watch.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.
Garmin Fenix Chronos New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. Garmin have seemingly aligned the firmware for the Fenix, Chronos and 935 now with bugs and features being consistently addressed accross all at the same time. This makes me feel more confident that the Chronos won’t be killed off early so it’s now a green flag here.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) but nothing obvious seems planned in the near future. August 2017 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Buy – this is still fairly new(October 2015). October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but there are rumblings of a 245 and 645 already.
Garmin Forerunner 245 Likely coming soon to launch alongside the Forerunner 645. Summer/autumn 2017. Expect this to be Forerunner 935 hardware with restrictions such as disabled/removed altitude
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d normally expect replacement. With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform
Garmin Forerunner 645 With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform. Expect this some time in summer/autumn 2017
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Already replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. Still a very good device if you find it cheap, this Jan 2015 watch is still modern and capable
Garmin Vivoactive HR Buy, this is still quite new. February 2018 is the soonest we’d expect a replacement
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this is overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!). Expect the replacement sometime this summer, probably April 2017. This is cheap everywhere now though, and still a good device.
Garmin Edge 1010 or Edge 1030 Coming soon…or maybe not? I don’t even know any more. It should be this year though and we’re expecting it in July/August timeframe so keep holding out. It’s been mentioned recently in Garmin documents so won’t be long now.
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next v850 Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch
Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected summer 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
TomTom Multisport Launched April 2013, available July 2013 older watch probably best not to buy. Replaced by newer runner models
TomTom Multisport Cardio Launched April 2014, available April 2014 older watch probably best not to buy. Replaced by newer runner models
TomTom Runner Launched April 2013, available July 2013 older watch probably best not to buy. Superceded
TomTom Runner Cardio Launched April 2014, available April 2014 older watch probably best not to buy. Superceded
TomTom Spark (Runner 2) Launched September 2015, available October 2015 2 years old so buy if a good deal but has been superceded by Spark/Runner 3
TomTom Spark 3/Runner 3 Launched September 2016, available September 2016 one year old so relatively safe, although TomTom seem to have a yearly cadence so expect announcement in September 2017
Posted in Cycling, Garmin, Multisport, Polar, Running, Suunto, Swimming, TomTom

SALES in the UK

Today is Amazon Prime day in the UK and certain other countries. There are a ton of offers to sift through and many sports devices included, some of these deals are pretty good too.

Also, possibly as a result, today is also 17% off day at Wiggle for us Platinum darlings. This means that for some of us a Forerunner 935 (yes, the new one!) is £390.09 today and Fenix 5 is £414.99.

 

No, those aren’t sponsored links. They aren’t even links! This site is all about the good karma and independence 🙂 Feel free to post links to todays deals in the comments below if you want to show off your shopping prowess or help your fellow sportspeople.

Posted in Cycling, Garmin, Multisport, Polar, Running, Suunto, Swimming

Monthly Roundup – July 2017

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for July 2017…

I was waiting for the Edge1030 info to arrive but I think it may be a couple more weeks yet so here we go.

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has finally been superceded. Don’t panic though, the Fenix 5 adds very little, so if the Fenix 3 is cheap it’s a great watch to buy. Updates will stop within the next year though probably, but there isn’t a lot they need to add to this stable and mature watch.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.
Garmin Fenix Chronos New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. Garmin have seemingly aligned the firmware for the Fenix, Chronos and 935 now with bugs and features being consistently addressed accross all at the same time. This makes me feel more confident that the Chronos won’t be killed off early so it’s now a green flag here.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) but nothing obvious seems planned in the near future. August 2017 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Buy – this is still fairly new(October 2015). October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but there are rumblings of a 245 and 645 already.
Garmin Forerunner 245 Likely coming soon to launch alongside the Forerunner 645. Summer/autumn 2017. Expect this to be Forerunner 935 hardware with restrictions such as disabled/removed altitude
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d normally expect replacement. With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform
Garmin Forerunner 645 With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sooner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform. Expect this some time in summer/autumn 2017
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Already replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. Still a very good device if you find it cheap, this Jan 2015 watch is still modern and capable
Garmin Vivoactive HR Buy, this is still quite new. February 2018 is the soonest we’d expect a replacement
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 10×0 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this is overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!). Expect the replacement sometime this summer, probably April 2017. This is cheap everywhere now though, and still a good device.
Garmin Edge 1010 or Edge 1030 Coming soon…or maybe not? I don’t even know any more. It should be this year though and we’re expecting it in July/August timeframe so keep holding out. It’s been mentioned recently in Garmin documents so won’t be long now.
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next v850 Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch
Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected summer 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
Posted in Cycling, Garmin, Multisport, Polar, Running, Suunto, Swimming

Garmin Edge 1030

Thanks to PavLinux for this link showing the new Garmin Edge 1030. It looks like we finally have a name with which to search for information! Please post in the comments below if you find anything else.

https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?378320

http://static.garmin.com/gcm/BLE_Android.pdf

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Garmin Forerunner 245 and Forerunner 645

OK, yes, I recently said you were safe with the existing products. Times change though, and new information comes along to change things.

Recently Garmin launched the Approach S60, a golfing watch. We all know that Garmin like to re-use hardware platforms where they can, and I think this will be the case here. The S60 looks to be essentially a Fenix 5 hardware platform but with the important details that it doesn’t have buttons on the left hand edge and instead has a touch screen interface.

This tells us two things, firstly that Garmin have updated the Fenix base firmware with support for touch. Secondly, they now have a platform which has touch screen but on the modern platform.

The S60 though, seems to be in a Fenix package, a stylish case to be worn by golfers in their fancy golfing pants. Forerunner isn’t that type of watch. Look at the Forerunner 935, it’s a Fenix device in a plastic case. This makes it light and powerful but more importantly comfortable for sports use. The Fenix is heavy by comparison so although it can and is used for the same purpose it’s less focussed.

So, the Forerunner 645 then will I think be an S60 internal with touch inside a plastic case to keep weight down. It’s likely they will also reduce the battery size to make it even thinner than the 935 because for running, a marathon is the biggest “normal” event you’d want to do so 8 hours battery in use would be sufficient. For Ultra runners the Fenix and 935 are available which last much longer.

The 245 though? That’s harder, but I’ll go out on a limb and say this will be a Fenix 5s in a plastic case. Much lighter and the smallest, thinnest watch with all these features (still Fenix platform hopefully). They may drop the altimeter but I’m hoping they decide small, thin, light is a selling point and leave the features standardised across the range.

We’ll see in a couple of months probably. The expectation would probably be autumn so don’t let this stop you if you’re training this summer – get a watch now if you need a watch now but go in with your eyes open and look for deals because the 235 and 630 are getting older.

Posted in Garmin, Running

Weird Polar v800 Stats – my conclusions

Sometimes I look at the page stats of the site and find something interesting. Recently I noticed that you were all obsessed with a new Forerunner 245 (FR245) although that seems to be dying down a little now (looks like it’s landing in the next few months though along with the Forerunner 645…). I guess that was a pre-season peak when you wanted something new for the summer.

Today though, I saw something new. For the first time (I think) ever, Polar v800 replacement has overtaken Garmin edge in the interest charts. Yes, more people are looking for a new v850 or whatever it’ll be called than are looking for the Edge 1010. That’s weird. Not that Polar aren’t successful, they are, but Garmin are a behemoth and own the bike computer market so there are naturally more users there.

This means a few things. Firstly, as we are all painfully aware, Polar are WAY overdue with an update there. The v800 is a great device but in a world of Spartan and Fenix 5 it’s just starting to look a little sad and outdated. Secondly, if there are this many people searching Polar will be starting to lose loyal customers. People who are ready for a new toy only wait for so long, and masses of searches kind of indicate that we’re seeing people itching for a new toy. Those people may wait a month but they won’t be waiting until January (CES) that’s for sure.

Polar need to launch soon to let customers know they have a plan. It’ll be frustrating if the device isn’t quite finished or ready to ship, but the longer they wait the fewer customers there will be queuing up for the device. Let’s hope there’s something cool in the works at Polar, or at least something colour with all day oHR (as recently added elsewhere in their range). Hopefully Polar are testing the waters on those other devices before v850 launch to ensure bug free and fully featured firmware.

Posted in Multisport, Polar, Running

Monthly Roundup – June 2017

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for May 2017…

Right, we now have a fair few of the expected devices in the bag. Still missing are Polar v-Series updates which are still expected this summer, and the Garmin Edge 1010 which may well drop this month.

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has finally been superceded. Don’t panic though, the Fenix 5 adds very little, so if the Fenix 3 is cheap it’s a great watch to buy. Updates will stop within the next year though probably, but there isn’t a lot they need to add to this stable and mature watch.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.
Garmin Fenix Chronos New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. Garmin have seemingly aligned the firmware for the Fenix, Chronos and 935 now with bugs and features being consistently addressed accross all at the same time. This makes me feel more confident that the Chronos won’t be killed off early so it’s now a green flag here.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) but nothing obvious seems planned in the near future. August 2017 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Buy – this is still fairly new(October 2015). October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement
Garmin Forerunner 245 Likely coming soon to launch alongside the Forerunner 645. Summer/autumn 2017. Expect this to be Forerunner 935 hardware with restrictions such as disabled/removed altitude
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d normally expect replacement. With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sonner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform
Garmin Forerunner 645 With the release of the touchscreen Approach S60 it’s likely the Forerunner 645 will come sonner rather than later since they will probably share a hardware platform. Expect this some time in summer/autumn 2017
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Already replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. Still a very good device if you find it cheap, this Jan 2015 watch is still modern and capable
Garmin Vivoactive HR Buy, this is still quite new. February 2018 is the soonest we’d expect a replacement
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this is overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!). Expect the replacement sometime this summer, probably April 2017. This is cheap everywhere now though, and still a good device.
Garmin Edge 1010 or Edge 1030 Coming soon…or maybe not? I don’t even know any more. It should be this year though and we’re expecting it in July/August timeframe so keep holding out.
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next v850 Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch
Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected summer 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
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Monthly Roundup – May 2017

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for May 2017…

Right, we now have a fair few of the expected devices in the bag. Still missing are Polar v-Series updates which are still expected this summer, and the Garmin Edge 1010 which may well drop this month.

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has finally been superceded. Don’t panic though, the Fenix 5 adds very little, so if the Fenix 3 is cheap it’s a great watch to buy. Updates will stop within the next year though probably, but there isn’t a lot they need to add to this stable and mature watch.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.
Garmin Fenix Chronos New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. Garmin have seemingly aligned the firmware for the Fenix, Chronos and 935 now with bugs and features being consistently addressed accross all at the same time. This makes me feel more confident that the Chronos won’t be killed off early so it’s now a green flag here.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) but nothing obvious seems planned in the near future. August 2017 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Buy – this is still fairly new(October 2015). October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement. It may be discontinued due to the Forerunner 935 running Fenix hardware or we may see a Forerunner 645 this year it’s hard to say.
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Already replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. Still a very good device if you find it cheap, this Jan 2015 watch is still modern and capable
Garmin Vivoactive HR Buy, this is still quite new. February 2018 is the soonest we’d expect a replacement
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this is overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!). Expect the replacement sometime this summer, probably April 2017. This is cheap everywhere now though, and still a good device.
Garmin Edge 1010 Coming soon…or maybe not? I don’t even know any more. It should be this year though and we’re expecting it in May-June timeframe so keep holding out.
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch
Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected summer 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
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Forerunner 245 (FR245)

There are a significant numer of you GPSrumors followers intersted in the Forerunner 245 (FR245). This is weird because the Forerunner 235 was born in October 2015. This means the FR245 will be at least October 2017 and realistically 2018 since it took a lot of thunder from FR225 early. There are very few hardware or software reasons Garmin would touch this early, let alone on time. You can be fairly confident that the Forerunner 235 will live and be current until 2018 so if that’s your thing, buy this watch with confidence.

Garmin, if you’re reading this and know different, give me a shout out. Your loyal customers are at stake!

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Monthly Roundup – April 2017

Now a regular feature, here’s the round-up of recommendations so everything is in one place, and so we have a nice record of speculations updated for April 2017…

Right, we now have a fair few of the expected devices in the bag. Still missing are Polar v-Series updates which are still expected this summer, and the Garmin Edge 1010 which may well drop this month (or even this week if we’re lucky).

In alphabetical order of manufacturer.

Manufacturer Device Current Speculation
Garmin Fenix Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Fenix 2 Don’t buy – Fenix 3 is now cheap and Fenix 4 is due imminently
Garmin Fenix 3 Fenix 3 HR, Quatix 3, D2 Bravo, Tactix Bravo This has finally been superceded. Don’t panic though, the Fenix 5 adds very little, so if the Fenix 3 is cheap it’s a great watch to buy. Updates will stop within the next year though probably, but there isn’t a lot they need to add to this stable and mature watch.
Garmin Fenix 5 Brand new (January 2017), although pricey. This looks to be an updated Fenix 3 firmware so the usual “don’t buy Garmin until 6 months in” shouldn’t apply in theory, as most of the code is already tried and tested.
Garmin Fenix Chronos Brand New, buy if you wear solid gold underpants. This has been replaced by a Fenix 5 so it’s not without risk, especially given the cost. Garmin have confused the market here and nobody knows the future of the Chronos. In theory it’s a 5 underneath so safe, but I wouldn’t put my money on it at that price.
Garmin Forerunner 910XT Don’t buy – this is very old
Garmin Forerunner 920XT Has now been replaced, but this is a very capable and mature device (October 2014). If it’s cheap I’d certainly get one.
Garmin Forerunner 935 Has arrived at last (March 2017) so is fresh and good to buy. Uses Fenix 5 firmware so pretty safe from bugs.
Garmin Forerunner 25 This has been out a while (August 2015) but nothing obvious seems planned in the near future. August 2017 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 35 Buy – this is still fairly new (September 2016). September 2018 would be the soonest we’d expect a replacement.
Garmin Forerunner 210 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Forerunner 220 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 230 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement but optical HR rules the roost now so this probably won’t be replaced
Garmin Forerunner 225 Don’t buy. Garmin immediately replaced this with the 235 using their own sensor.
Garmin Forerunner 235 Buy – this is still fairly new(October 2015). October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement
Garmin Forerunner 610 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Forerunner 620 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Forerunner 630 Don’t Buy – this is still fairly new but is already on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. October 2017 is the soonest we’d expect replacement. It may be discontinued due to the Forerunner 935 running Fenix hardware or we may see a Forerunner 645 this year it’s hard to say.
Garmin Forerunner 735XT Buy if cheap – this is fairly new (May 2016). If it’s cheaper than the FR935 then great, otherwise definitely go for the FR935. May 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement but with the Forerunner 935 in the mix it may be dropped as it was an interim solution using FR235 hardware before F5 hardware was finalised.
Garmin Epix Don’t buy. This experimental watch led to the Fenix 5X but firmware updates have all but stopped on this device despite numerous bugs
Garmin Epix 2 Abandoned, the Epix has been replaced by Fenix 5X
Garmin Vivoactive Already replaced by the Vivoactive HR and on the “previous models” (aka “dead to me”) page at Garmin. Still a very good device if you find it cheap, this Jan 2015 watch is still modern and capable
Garmin Vivoactive HR Buy, this is still quite new. February 2018 is the soonest we’d expect a replacement
Garmin Edge 20 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge30 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 25 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around June 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge35 is more likely to be 2018
Garmin Edge 200 Don’t buy, this is very old (2011)
Garmin Edge 500 Don’t buy, this is very old (2009)
Garmin Edge 510 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 520 Buy, this is current, although may be replaced around July 2017. Given that we’re still waiting on the Edge 1010 the Edge530 is more likely to be 2018 so don’t hold out for a new one this year.
Garmin Edge 800 Don’t buy, this is very old (2010)
Garmin Edge 810 Don’t buy, this is very old (2013)
Garmin Edge 820 Buy, this is quite new. July 2018 is the earliest we’d expect replacement although 2019 more likely
Garmin Edge 1000 Buy if you get a really good deal, this is overdue for replacement and very, very old for a current device (2014!). Expect the replacement sometime this summer, probably April 2017.
Garmin Edge 1010 Coming soon…Sea Otter? I don’t even know any more. It’ll have to be this year though and we’re expecting it in April.
Polar v800 Wait – update is probably imminent. This watch is very, very old for a current watch (2014!). The M400 was just updated and that was launched near the v800.
Polar v800.next Overdue, expected announcement at…who knows! H7i Sensor has been leaked which is likely to be packaged with this watch
Polar M200 Buy, this is just released (Oct 2016)
Polar m400 Finally updated. This is a very old watch for a current model (2014) but is very cheap and still works well.
Polar m430 Launched April 2017 and based on M400 so shouldn’t be buggy, a definite safe buy
Polar M600 Buy, this is new (Aug 2016) and was updated with new Androidwear in 2017 so definitely supported well
Polar M450 Replaced with….identical hardware and a new firmware. Normally I’d say buy if cheap, but Polar abandoned this for no reason so buyer beware.
Polar M460 Launched April 2017 this is M450 hardware with new firmware. Given the treatment of M450 owners I’d say be careful buying this. Yup, Amber warning for a “brand new” device. That’s a first for me.
Polar v650 Wait, this is very old for a current model and overdue for replacement (Jan 2014)
Polar v650.next overdue for replacement, expected summer 2017
Suunto Ambit Don’t buy this is very old (2012)
Suunto Ambit 2 Don’t buy unless you need Ant+, this is very old (2013)
Suunto Ambit 3 Don’t’ buy, this is very old (2014)
Suunto Ambit 4 Officially not going to happen, Spartan Series has replaced Ambit
Suunto Spartan Ultra Buy, just released (Jun 2016). Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Sport Buy, just released. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Spartan Trainer Announcing shortly, just leaked. Be aware there may be more models coming
Suunto Kailash Buy if you can work out what it’s for or who it’s aimed at
Suunto Traverse Why Suunto, WHY!?
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